Commander X16

12 hours ago, Perifractic said:

We are likely not going to go that way, and would prefer to supply everything in one tidy box.

I would prefer that, as it is easier for me. But to be honest, that might be easier for the team to put the sourceing to the people utilizing their numbers (more hands) and therefore enable more speed for the delivery. 



Another Idea could be (not sure if that is possible) to create a kit with Mouser (for example) and have a specific SKU on Mouser for that set, so that you can simply order it and Mouser can deliver it - and in the end you have the right stuff in your hands. Maybe a doable compromise to get the burden off of your shoulders.

7 hours ago, SerErris said:

Another Idea could be (not sure if that is possible) to create a kit with Mouser (for example) and have a specific SKU on Mouser for that set, so that you can simply order it and Mouser can deliver it - and in the end you have the right stuff in your hands. Maybe a doable compromise to get the burden off of your shoulders.

The challenge to something like that is that Mouser could change manufacturers on a part, causing a change in appearance and/or markings, which would impact the instructions. The team would never know, and someone may post a question which leaves someone scratching their head until they realize that a substitution was made which made the instructions no so clear.

If the goal for the kit is for those knowledgeable enough on electronics to be able to handle that situation, then the market for the kit is drastically reduced.

I'm not a part of the team, but the way I envision the kit is something more akin to a Heathkit product - aimed at a someone who's willing to take on a project, has some reasonable soldering skills, and who can follow instructions. But someone who may not be able to tell an electrolytic capacitor from a ceramic, without something to help the user tell them apart.

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Appreciate the input here chaps, and by all means chat about it, but we won't be doing a Mouser kit as stated. It'll all be supplied by us. Very likely it will all be assembled in house where possible, by an appointed team.

We do not want the pitfalls you've seen with other projects where some aspects not in house led to major production issues, only realized when batches arrived.

Where possible things will be done in a hands on manner where we can oversee. This likely includes kit assembly. Naturally it excludes production of parts that can only come from a factory.

Obviously nothing is official until made as an announcement and launch, so hold fire until we announce the final details. Cheers!

Yes, one advantage of the team is there are a range of experiences present, on both supplier & consumer side, so you'll have a reasonable handle on quite a few of the hidden pitfalls.

Appreciate the input here chaps, and by all means chat about it, but we won't be doing a Mouser kit as stated. It'll all be supplied by us. Very likely it will all be assembled in house where possible, by an appointed team.  We do not want the pitfalls you've seen with other projects where some aspects not in house led to major production issues, only realized when batches arrived. Where possible things will be done in a hands on manner where we can oversee. This likely includes kit assembly. Naturally it excludes production of parts that can only come from a factory. Obviously nothing is official until made as an announcement and launch, so hold fire until we announce the final details. Cheers!

Are there gonna be empty circuit boards and components separately so you can do it at home?

44 minutes ago, CKevin said:

Are there gonna be empty circuit boards and components separately so you can do it at home?

Find the answer in this thread above:

On 8/29/2020 at 7:02 PM, Perifractic said:

I'm 99% sure we will release the first wave with a kit option. Worst case it will have a clear message at the point of purchase that we are not responsible for any issues/damage during assembly. There will be plentiful community support available to everyone (as I said in another thread about this same topic recently), and you can bet team-members will also jump in and out to offer help and guidance.



David's main concern is that he not have to offer direct support via email. All support will be via the Support button at this very website.



 

 

Are there gonna be empty circuit boards and components separately so you can do it at home?

Please see FAQ [emoji4]

On 9/5/2020 at 1:43 AM, TomXP411 said:

You MAY ALSO be able to buy bare boards

Buying just the X16 board? Whom would it benefit?

15 hours ago, xanthrou said:

Buying just the X16 board? Whom would it benefit?

There are people who like to source parts themselves. And maybe experiment or modify somthing. Not sure though how many of such people among X16 audience.