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Re: Adrian's Digital Basement X16 Video

Posted: Mon May 22, 2023 5:34 pm
by TomXP411
Agreed. The FM chip clearly works. So let's move on from the "relabeled" debate. Whether the chip's label is reprinted or not, it is obviously functional.

Re: Adrian's Digital Basement X16 Video

Posted: Mon May 22, 2023 9:20 pm
by Ed Minchau
What I found interesting is that the Wolf3d demo still works. I think that was written for r37 or 38.

Can confirm the Indiana Jones video I did for r42 still works, and the sound in that video now works in the Windows emulator.

Re: Adrian's Digital Basement X16 Video

Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 12:12 pm
by GTR3QQ
AndyMt wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 5:23 pm I own DEV board 7 - and it's YM2151 looks exactly the same as Adrian's (texture and labels). And I can confirm it is working perfectly and behaves like any other YM2151 chip. I have no idea what batch or manufacturer this is from - but it works.
How? is this the case for every one?

Re: Adrian's Digital Basement X16 Video

Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 12:24 pm
by GTR3QQ
TomXP411 wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 5:34 pm Agreed. The FM chip clearly works. So let's move on from the "relabeled" debate. Whether the chip's label is reprinted or not, it is obviously functional.
I mean, you probably don't realize yet, if some of the reprint one works, this can be a game changer.
Just for the quantity alone.
So it's crucial to confirm this.

Re: Adrian's Digital Basement X16 Video

Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 3:57 pm
by TomXP411
GTR3QQ wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 12:24 pm
TomXP411 wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 5:34 pm Agreed. The FM chip clearly works. So let's move on from the "relabeled" debate. Whether the chip's label is reprinted or not, it is obviously functional.
I mean, you probably don't realize yet, if some of the reprint one works, this can be a game changer.
Just for the quantity alone.
So it's crucial to confirm this.
I don't see why. If someone is cleaning up and re-printing the labels, that doesn't really mean anything, other than that you can't trust the labels. Which we already knew.

Re: Adrian's Digital Basement X16 Video

Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 8:42 pm
by StephenHorn
TomXP411 wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 3:57 pm
GTR3QQ wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 12:24 pm
TomXP411 wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 5:34 pm Agreed. The FM chip clearly works. So let's move on from the "relabeled" debate. Whether the chip's label is reprinted or not, it is obviously functional.
I mean, you probably don't realize yet, if some of the reprint one works, this can be a game changer.
Just for the quantity alone.
So it's crucial to confirm this.
I don't see why. If someone is cleaning up and re-printing the labels, that doesn't really mean anything, other than that you can't trust the labels. Which we already knew.
This. A chip either works as designed, or it doesn't.

Everyone freaked out when Dave ordered a large batch of chips and they were all fraudulent. To be sure, it was a disappointment. Ordering YM2151 chips from China is always going to be a gamble. But Dave has confirmed -- multiple times by now -- that they have enough supply secured for the immediate future. They are real YM2151s. We might not be able to trust that they were manufactured when the label suggests, but they are real YM2151s regardless.

Re: Adrian's Digital Basement X16 Video

Posted: Wed May 24, 2023 5:56 am
by Ender
David has already said they have the YM2151 chips for the first batch of 100, and especially for the first few that they sent out, like to Adrian, they checked that they weren't fake. It's only the future boards after this coming batch that are uncertain whether they will have 2151's or an FPGA replacement.

Re: Adrian's Digital Basement X16 Video

Posted: Wed May 24, 2023 7:51 am
by GTR3QQ
I know he has enough for now.
Fine then. We put a pin in it.

I only recently join in, is every video for cx16 a PR nightmare lately?
Why would those mobs leaving Karen comments?Are the paid by rival?
Something should be done to control it I think.

Re: Adrian's Digital Basement X16 Video

Posted: Wed May 24, 2023 8:49 am
by StephenHorn
GTR3QQ wrote: Wed May 24, 2023 7:51 am I know he has enough for now.
Fine then. We put a pin in it.

I only recently join in, is every video for cx16 a PR nightmare lately?
Why would those mobs leaving Karen comments?Are the paid by rival?
Something should be done to control it I think.
The only "PR nightmare" that I'm aware of is from a certain vocal and adversarial minority from a certain product that envisions itself a competitor to the Commander X16.

I call him "He-who-shall-not-be-named", as much because I can't actually remember the guy's name what designed this so-called competitor. They took a very combative position against the Commander X16 in their marketing efforts, for reasons that we don't quite understand. Our best guess is they want to leech off of the X16's name recognition and appeal to users who have criticized some of the design decisions that were made for the X16. Some of their fans have adopted this aggressive, combative attitude and like to go out of their way to find X16-related content and articles, arguing in the comments with anyone who favors or is sympathetic towards the X16, and promoting their "competitor".

It's a lot of drama. Unfortunately, we fed into it a bit by banning direct mention of the project or its creator here. (I'd link to the announcement of the decision, but I can't actually find it, and "Teh Rules" don't directly call out the project or its creator.) But at the same time, we felt a need to make a formal decision that would protect these forums from trolls and drama queens coming and stirring up trouble for trouble's sake.

Re: Adrian's Digital Basement X16 Video

Posted: Wed May 24, 2023 8:02 pm
by grml
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Is this something that must be fixed on a game/screen layout level by reducing the area for screen content? Or can I simply look up the relevant VERA registers that I vaguely remember, write code to detect "old man using a CRT" mode and scale the whole screen down? That should be happening by default, anyway.