Future proofing for faster 6502 ie 14 or 100 MHz

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Edmond D
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Hardware Re: Future proofing for faster 6502 ie 14 or 100 MHz

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BruceRMcF wrote: Sun Jan 22, 2023 7:19 pm Yes the three "Phases" of the project support people who settle on different answers to that question, with Phase 2 dropping the through hole requirement possibly easing the ASIC requirement for glue logic replaced by a CPLD, and Phase 3 dropping the ASIC CPU/VIA/etc. requirement. But since each later phase would be designed to target direct compatibility with Phase 1, the Phase 1 design constraints are binding for the Commander X16 project itself.
I suspect that someone will spin off a X16+ project at some point. Whether it goes into production is another story. I feel my retro-itch will be met by the X16; if I want a bleeding edge system I'd be going with the latest CPU Intel or Apple produces.
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Re: Future proofing for faster 6502 ie 14 or 100 MHz

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Edmond D wrote: Mon Jan 23, 2023 1:20 am I suspect that someone will spin off a X16+ project at some point. Whether it goes into production is another story. I feel my retro-itch will be met by the X16; if I want a bleeding edge system I'd be going with the latest CPU Intel or Apple produces.
Quite.

It might even be that the projects that actually get built, at least at the hobbyist DIY level, might be "X16-", which trims out some of the features of the X16 to make it easier to build, but which includes a Vera and allows some of the X16 assembly language programs to be ported after some adjustments and re-assembly for the I/O locations in the project memory map.
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Re: Future proofing for faster 6502 ie 14 or 100 MHz

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BruceRMcF wrote: Mon Jan 23, 2023 12:55 pm It might even be that the projects that actually get built, at least at the hobbyist DIY level, might be "X16-", which trims out some of the features of the X16 to make it easier to build, but which includes a Vera and allows some of the X16 assembly language programs to be ported after some adjustments and re-assembly for the I/O locations in the project memory map.
Ah, sort of like the X8 that never saw the light of day. The Commander team is already paralleling Commodore with unreleased products that made it all the way to the prototype stage before being killed. :D
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Re: Future proofing for faster 6502 ie 14 or 100 MHz

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kelli217 wrote: Mon Jan 23, 2023 9:58 pm Ah, sort of like the X8 that never saw the light of day. The Commander team is already paralleling Commodore with unreleased products that made it all the way to the prototype stage before being killed. :D
I was thinking ASIC, but yeah, like the X8. :D
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