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Printing Hex values, with thanks to Woz

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 5:08 am
by TomXP411


2 hours ago, BruceMcF said:




If you are worried about execution speed and have the C138 down as slower than the Vic-20, you are using the wrong video mode, time to crank the C128 up to 2MH.



? tooootally missing the point.  Sometimes you need it to go fast, and sometimes you need it to use less memory... you can't always have both.

 

 


Printing Hex values, with thanks to Woz

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 7:33 am
by BruceMcF


2 hours ago, TomXP411 said:




? tooootally missing the point.  Sometimes you need it to go fast, and sometimes you need it to use less memory... you can't always have both.



Yes, but I was not responding to the point you were trying to make, but to the claim you made enroute to your point ... with the VIC-20 being the only one that ever has only 4K of RAM (out of the box), that leaves the C128 being "but the other one has slower execution speed", which is only marginally true and only if electing to run it in slow mode with the VIC IIE slowing it down.


Printing Hex values, with thanks to Woz

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:35 pm
by John Chow Seymour


19 hours ago, SerErris said:




That solution was btw already in Jim Butterfields excellent Book 



Ah yes, my first ever ML Monitor, SuperMon, a type-in program right out of Jim Butterfield's book.  I eventually got a more full-featured ML Monitor cartridge for the the C64 (HES Mon), but messing around with ML in SuperMon is how I 'made the leap' from being confused by computers to feeling like I might be able to understand them someday.  Big thanks all these decades later to Jim Butterfield.

Sorry for the digression; I have no comment on which method of displaying Hex is preferable.


Printing Hex values, with thanks to Woz

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 8:24 pm
by TomXP411


12 hours ago, BruceMcF said:




Yes, but I was not responding to the point you were trying to make, but to the claim you made enroute to your point ... with the VIC-20 being the only one that ever has only 4K of RAM (out of the box), that leaves the C128 being "but the other one has slower execution speed", which is only marginally true and only if electing to run it in slow mode with the VIC IIE slowing it down.



And yet nobody else felt the need to nitpick that tiny detail, which again totally missed the point of "smaller vs faster."