Texas and Florida Social Media laws

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TomXP411
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Texas and Florida Social Media laws

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This is just a real quick note about the social media laws in Florida and Texas, which are currently up in front of the Supreme court.

Tl;dr is: the laws don't affect us. So nothing to see here.

Longer version:

We normally don't do politics here on the forums, but sometimes an issue comes along that might directly affect us. For example, if a state or nation was to pass a law that affected social media sites like forums or file trading sites, we would take notice.

In 2021, the state of Texas passed HB20, a law aimed at preventing censorship of political speech by social media companies.

Florida has a similar law, SB 7072.

In both cases, the law generally makes it illegal to de-platform political candidates or to censor political speech just because the platform disagrees with the content.

These laws would penalize social media companies who show bias by censoring political speech. They also make it illegal to "de-platform" political candidates, as Twitter famously did with a certain political figure who started his own social network in protest.

So how does this affect us? Fortunately, we are currently immune to both of these laws. Both laws have a "minimum size" requirement as part of their definition of a social media company. Florida requires a company to have $100 million in revenue, and Texas requires a company to have 50 million users before the sites are covered by the respective laws.

Since we're not big enough to qualify as a "social media" company, we are not affected by either HB20 or SB7072.

Aside from that, Some things the Florida law requires:
  • "Fair" application of moderation policies: we do not remove people just because we don't like them. We remove posts and/or accounts only when they are in clear violation of our posted policies.
  • De-platforming of candidates: anyone is allowed to create an account here, but their messages must be on topic. If we do "de-platform" someone, it's not because of their politics, but because of their other actions (which may include the "no politics" rule.")
  • Rules changes: Florida wants us to notify you in advance of rules changes. We try to make everyone aware of updates to the rules, via posts in this topic area. We'll continue to do so.
At this point, we don't believe the Texas or Florida laws affect us, but that doesn't mean we don't have a duty to all of you. Our mission here is to support users and developers of the Commander X16, both by promoting the platform and by helping all of you help each other.

Part of that mission means not letting politics or religion affect how we serve you, and I believe we do that job well.

On a personal note: you guys are awesome. We've never had to really worry about the "no politics" rule, and all of you make this a great place to be. So thank you for not giving us a reason to worry about this, and we hope all of you are around for a long time to come.
Edmond D
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Re: Texas and Florida Social Media laws

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TomXP411 wrote:
> This is just a real quick note about the social media laws in Florida and
> Texas, which are currently up in front of the Supreme court.

> So how does this affect us? Fortunately, we are currently immune to both of
> these laws. Both laws have a "minimum size" requirement as part
> of their definition of a social media company. Florida requires a company
> to have $100 million in revenue, and Texas requires a company to have 50
> million users before the sites are covered by the respective laws.

>
> On a personal note: you guys are awesome. We've never had to really worry
> about the "no politics" rule, and all of you make this a great
> place to be. So thank you for not giving us a reason to worry about this,
> and we hope all of you are around for a long time to come.

Yes - I think this is a very well behaved forum, mainly because of the users who are here for the nostalgia of having a modern retro system. The minimal moderation need/visible speaks to the fact there haven't been any significant issues.

Thanks EVERYONE for making this the best forum I interact with.

Now if it could only grow to 50 million users!
mortarm
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Re: Texas and Florida Social Media laws

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I take it this site originates from Florida?
TomXP411
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Re: Texas and Florida Social Media laws

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mortarm wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2024 3:28 pm I take it this site originates from Florida?
No, it does not. The state laws affect web sites that do business in that state - even if the company is based elsewhere.

This is one of the problems with states attempting to regulate the Internet. The web site could be physically located in Los Angeles, the owner of the site could be in New York, but Florida can still legislate what the site does if someone in Florida is accessing it.
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